Hello!
I am in the same situation, that I am going to get a new tool for my transports around the Island of Phuket 60 km N to S.and about 25km between W & E shores on the widest point.
I am 190cm /100kg's so I want the biggest and most powerfull machine possible with CVT, Alloy Wheels & Storage compartment, I have had my eyes on these scooters:

Yamaha Nouvo Elegance 135
Suzuki SkyDrive 125i
Honda Click-i 110i

Have I missed any bike on the market?

I am NOT in the need for a big bike.

Hello Supereduro,

Personally I would "currently" forget about the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance 135, more and more dealers are talking about a upcoming fuel-injection upgrade. The Suzuki Skydrive 125 is surely a good choice. It is very economic on fuel and nows how to perform, it will start under all conditions in Thailand and likely around the world. It will run all fuel as efficient as it is possible.

The Yamaha Elegance 135, while performing well is in daily and future use no match for any other fuel-injection motorcycles. A carburetter motorcycle/scooter is tuned to one fuel, and one fuel only if you full the tank with anything other it is likely to damage the motorcycle's engine, some fuel burn hotter then other fuels. The sensors in a fuel-injection motorcycle/scooter prevent this possible danger of engine problems....

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Hello Supereduro,

Personally I would "currently" forget about the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance 135, more and more dealers are talking about a upcoming fuel-injection upgrade. The Suzuki Skydrive 125 is surely a good choice. It is very economic on fuel and nows how to perform, it will start under all conditions in Thailand and likely around the world. It will run all fuel as efficient as it is possible.

The Yamaha Elegance 135, while performing well is in daily and future use no match for any other fuel-injection motorcycles. A carburetter motorcycle/scooter is tuned to one fuel, and one fuel only if you full the tank with anything other it is likely to damage the motorcycle's engine, some fuel burn hotter then other fuels. The sensors in a fuel-injection motorcycle/scooter prevent this possible danger of engine problems....

Is the Skydrive relatively big and does it have a large storage compartment ?
Is it really that hard to find non alcohol fuel in Phuket?
I wish the Yamaha Elegance would have the Spark Fi 4V-engine, then it would be a no brainer...
Why is the Yamaha Spark RX 135i (52K) lower priced than the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance (55K)

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Hello Supereduro,

Personally I would "currently" forget about the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance 135, more and more dealers are talking about a upcoming fuel-injection upgrade. The Suzuki Skydrive 125 is surely a good choice. It is very economic on fuel and nows how to perform, it will start under all conditions in Thailand and likely around the world. It will run all fuel as efficient as it is possible.

The Yamaha Elegance 135, while performing well is in daily and future use no match for any other fuel-injection motorcycles. A carburetter motorcycle/scooter is tuned to one fuel, and one fuel only if you full the tank with anything other it is likely to damage the motorcycle's engine, some fuel burn hotter then other fuels. The sensors in a fuel-injection motorcycle/scooter prevent this possible danger of engine problems....

Jeez, that post has put a dampener on my almost made decision to go for the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance. I also read about an upcoming fuel-injection model but am led to believe this will be far more expensive than the existing model, which is already at the top end of the price range for this level of bike.

Is the fuel aspect in a non-fuel injection engine really such a vital factor, as there appear to be many owners of this bike around? Excuse my ignorance. Do any Nouvo Elegance drivers out there agree with this?

If I look back on how fast the gasoline based 95 fuel was gone, and I cannot run Gasohol 95 in my motorcycle. I would select next time a motorcycle which can run as much fuels as possible, especially with so much changes in fuels coming up.

Apparently the recommened fuels for use in the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance is no different to that specified for Honda's fuel injection models: pure benzene 91, 95 or 98 or gasohol 91 or 95.

Neither is equipped to work on any of these "future fuels" like E20 or E85, so it doesn't sound to me like there's anything between the two and I've yet to hear or read anything about Elegance owners and engine trouble.

I gather that the gasohol has slight disadvantages over the regular benzene such as loss of power and fuel efficiency and possibly even damage to the fuel system, but as this presumably applies equally to both fuel injected and non fuel injected bikes, the argument for fuel injected bikes does not appear to hold water on this front either.

Any thoughts?

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Apparently the recommened fuels for use in the Yamaha Nouvo Elegance is no different to that specified for Honda's fuel injection models: pure benzene 91, 95 or 98 or gasohol 91 or 95.

Neither is equipped to work on any of these "future fuels" like E20 or E85, so it doesn't sound to me like there's anything between the two and I've yet to hear or read anything about Elegance owners and engine trouble.

I gather that the gasohol has slight disadvantages over the regular benzene such as loss of power and fuel efficiency and possibly even damage to the fuel system, but as this presumably applies equally to both fuel injected and non fuel injected bikes, the argument for fuel injected bikes does not appear to hold water on this front either.

Any thoughts?

It must be easier to adapt a carburated modell to e.x E85, with bigger pilot & main jets, lift the needle a step (you need appx 25% more fuel on E85)
Fiddle with Fi to manage a 25% in flow capacity might need higher pressure &/or bigger fuel injectors depending on the capacity of the injectors.
You should also advance the timing a few degrees to adapt to the slower burning alcohol fuel.......

My Honda Airblade-i (fuel-injection model) can run on E20 it even says that in the manual....

Why so many people are interested in the Yamaha Nouveau Elegance and how does the Yamaha compares to the new Honda PCX 125i?

Comparing the specs of the Honda PCX with what? On the Thai scooter market is nothing what is comparable. “It is like always Honda invents and innovates and the others simply follow by coping”.

If we look at the new variable transmission system on the Honda PCX, Honda found it possible to patent 14 new “innovative” improvements. With a system with less then 14 parts it must be interesting to see what they did...

Honda also shaped the combustion chamber to improve the combustion, in combination with a upgraded PGM-FI (fuel-injection) makes the PCX the most advanced scooter in Thailand. And if the price level is nearly identical to the Honda Airblade it would be an amazing machine.